Graeme Hill talks with Gerard Hindmarsh, who is back with Outsiders - this week all about Abel Tasman.
Born in 1603, coming from a very lowley family, Gerard explains a bit about his history.
In 1636 he was the subject of a complaint - what happened with this?
In 1642 - Tasman was the first known visitor to New Zealand.
This week marks the 375th anniversary between Maori and European. Gerard describes this as the start of the modern era for this country.
Tasman didn't head to New Zealand like Cook did... Gerard and Graeme discuss the difference.
Listen to the full audio with Gerard Hindmarsh above.
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